{"id":3702,"date":"2020-12-14T09:28:31","date_gmt":"2020-12-14T14:28:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/?p=3702"},"modified":"2021-01-18T18:59:40","modified_gmt":"2021-01-18T23:59:40","slug":"cybernetics-ai-and-ethical-conversations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/2020\/12\/cybernetics-ai-and-ethical-conversations\/","title":{"rendered":"Cybernetics, AI, and Ethical Conversations"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Quote above: An approach to interface design based on <a href=\"https:\/\/uranos.ch\/research\/references\/VonFoerster1992\/ethics.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heinz von Foerster&#8217;s <\/a><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/uranos.ch\/research\/references\/VonFoerster1992\/ethics.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ethical Imperative<\/a><em> where &#8220;<\/em><i>choices&#8221; are\u00a0distinguished from &#8220;options&#8221; \u2014 options are anything that is possible, while choices are only those options that are viable and well-suited to this user in this moment.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>More and more, today&#8217;s AI makes the world we see and the world we live in \u2014 and we need to respond. In a presentation hosted by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tudelft.nl\/aitech\/agora\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">AiTech Agora<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tudelft.nl\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TU Delft<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/pangaro.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Paul Pangaro<\/a>\u00a0responds with a proposal for collaboration that bridges AI and cybernetics with conversation.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993366;\"><i><a style=\"color: #993366;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VvJpkqKlv9Q&amp;list=PL4Ocv4g9goY4vjYDyr8ZPi0BWHf3FkBZC&amp;index=11&amp;ab_channel=AiTech-TUDelft\">Click for video of presentation<\/a>. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<a style=\"color: #993366;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pangaro.com\/aitechagora2020\/\">Click for full\u00a0abstract and slides<\/a>.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pandemic&#8221; comes from &#8220;all&#8221; and &#8220;people&#8221;, meaning something negative that effects us all. While not biological, today&#8217;s AI foments polarization, pushes irrelevant products, spreads social bias, and surveils our lives. AI touches billions and sways more of us, \u00a0in more invasive and uncontrolled ways, every day.<\/p>\n<p>AI came out of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pangaro.com\/definition-cybernetics.html\">cybernetics<\/a>, a practice that evolved from a series of trans-disciplinary conversations called the <a href=\"https:\/\/archives.library.illinois.edu\/thought-collective\/cybernetics-thought-collective\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Macy Meetings<\/a>. This history offers a way forward.<!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3709\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3709\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pangaro.com\/aitechagora2020\/Pangaro_Cybernetics-AI-Ethical_Conversations_v7distro.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3709 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy.jpg?resize=525%2C295&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Macy Meetings \u2013&gt; #NewMacy Meetings\" width=\"525\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C84&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/macy-summary-copy-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3709\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click for PDF of presentation<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Pangaro argues for a <a href=\"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/2020\/08\/pandemics-cybernetics-newmacymeetings-1-sept-13-noon-edt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">revival of trans-disciplinary conversations \u2014 for #NewMacyMeetings<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 to respond to the <a href=\"https:\/\/nnsi.northwestern.edu\/wicked-problems-what-are-they-and-why-are-they-of-interest-to-nnsi-researchers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wicked challenges<\/a> of \u00a0today&#8217;s AI.\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">Beyond being trans-disciplinary, conversations for the\u00a021st-century must<\/span>\u00a0also be<span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">\u00a0trans-global and trans-generational. Only then can we prioritize our technology for universal human values.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Pangaro&#8217;s talk proposes how cybernetic models of conversation may enable the design of interactions\u00a0that are cooperative, ethical, and humane,\u00a0whether human-to-human or human\u2013to-machine.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"font-size: 1rem;\" href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-3710 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816-1024x254.jpg?resize=525%2C130&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\u201cI shall act always to create conditions such that others \u2028 may converse \u2014 with others and with themselves.\u201d\" width=\"525\" height=\"130\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=1024%2C254&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=300%2C74&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=150%2C37&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=768%2C190&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=1536%2C381&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/Axiom2_others-may-converse-cropped-scaled-e1607906957816.jpg?resize=2048%2C508&amp;ssl=1 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993366;\"><i><a style=\"color: #993366;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VvJpkqKlv9Q&amp;list=PL4Ocv4g9goY4vjYDyr8ZPi0BWHf3FkBZC&amp;index=11&amp;ab_channel=AiTech-TUDelft\">Click for video of presentation<\/a>. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<a style=\"color: #993366;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pangaro.com\/aitechagora2020\/\">Click for full\u00a0abstract and slides<\/a>.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p>###<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quote above: An approach to interface design based on Heinz von Foerster&#8217;s Ethical Imperative where &#8220;choices&#8221; are\u00a0distinguished from &#8220;options&#8221; \u2014 options are anything that is possible, while choices are only those options that are viable and well-suited to this user in this moment. More and more, today&#8217;s AI makes the world we see and the &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/2020\/12\/cybernetics-ai-and-ethical-conversations\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Cybernetics, AI, and Ethical Conversations&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":3727,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Cybernetics, AI, and Ethical Conversations","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[168,13,6,9],"tags":[56,169,61,62,77],"class_list":["post-3702","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-newmacymeetings","category-cybernetics","category-interaction-design","category-pangaro","tag-conversation","tag-conversation-for-action","tag-cybernetics-2","tag-design","tag-gordon-pask"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-content\/uploads\/ethical-imperative-4-lines-cropped-v2.png?fit=2539%2C1023&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paKWzH-XI","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3702","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3702"}],"version-history":[{"count":31,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3702\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3742,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3702\/revisions\/3742"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3727"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3702"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3702"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pangaro.com\/designconversation\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3702"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}